Isael: I've had conversations with people a number of times over the years were the reasoning kind of goes, when i get to this place where i have enough excess. And what's interesting isand i won't look, i'm, i'm never going to shame or blame anybody for the choices that they make. But it is interesting to note that even the smallest little thing, even if doesn't have to be money, it can be service. It can be a tiny little act which helps somebody else but also flips a switch in you and changes your identity.

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