Intro

Can you just use Claude Code or another LLM to "vibe code" your way into building an AI SOC? In this episode, Ariful Huq, Co-Founder and Head of Product at Exaforce spoke about the reality being far more complex than the hype suggests. He explains why a simple "bolt-on" approach to AI in the SOC is insufficient if you're looking for real security outcomes.

We speak about foundational elements required to build a true AI SOC, starting with the data. It's "well more than just logs and event data," requiring the integration of config, code, and business context to remove guesswork and provide LLMs with the necessary information to function accurately . The discussion covers the evolution beyond traditional SIEM capabilities, the challenges of data lake architectures for real-time security processing, and the critical need for domain-specific knowledge to build effective detections, especially for SaaS platforms like GitHub that lack native threat detection .

This is for SOC leaders and CISOs feeling the pressure to integrate AI. Learn what it really takes to build an AI SOC, the unspoken complexities, and how the role of the security professional is evolving towards the "full-stack security engineer".

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Questions asked:

(00:00) Introduction(02:30) Who is Ariful Huq?(03:40) Can You Just Use Claude Code to Build an AI SOC?(06:50) Why a "Bolt-On" AI Approach is Tough for SOCs(08:15) The Importance of Data: Beyond Logs to Config, Code & Context(09:10) Building AI Native Capabilities for Every SOC Task (Detection, Triage, Investigation, Response)(12:40) The Impact of Cloud & SaaS Data Volume on Traditional SIEMs(14:15) Building AI Capabilities on AWS Bedrock: Best Practices & Challenges(17:20) Why SIEM Might Not Be Good Enough Anymore(19:10) The Critical Role of Diverse Data (Config, Code, Context) for AI Accuracy(22:15) Data Lake Challenges (e.g., Snowflake) for Real-Time Security Processing(26:50) Detection Coverage Blind Spots, Especially for SaaS (e.g., GitHub)(31:40) Building Trust & Transparency in AI SOCs(35:40) Rethinking the SOC Team Structure: The Rise of the Full-Stack Security Engineer(42:15) Final Questions: Running, Family, and Turkish Food