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20th Anniversary celebration with photographers Catherine Opie, Albert Watson, Pete Souza, Lynn Goldsmith, and Mary Ellen Matthews

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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Interpreting Being and Having's title

Debbie asks about the show's title origins and Opie connects it to an On Our Backs image and her relationship with Anna Marie Smith.

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