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Episode 125: Celebrating American Independence

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Jefferson and the American Philosopher

Jeffrey Toobin: Thomas Jefferson is the quintessential American philosopher. But he has to live in this world defined by pragmatism, says Toobin. Federalists also levied a criticism that I think will tickle the three of us and that will totally get. He was more fit to be a college professor than a man of state," writes Toobin. "That's a really low blow. I totally get it"

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