132. Jenny Odell (Originally aired 9/11/19)
Scratching the Surface
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How to Write a Book About Graphic Design
Sally Kohn: How do you describe this book? Sally Kohn: I honestly have like as much of a hard time as the next person. And it was not at all what I was expecting it to be. She says she has a bird watching metaphor for everything, because there's a lot of bird watching in the book. But when I go actually forget to look right in front of me, and I'm thinking about how I'm gonna have to spot this small thing that's very far away or something. That's so weird,. Like if you're always looking over your shoulder, which is kind of my argument where it's just an obvious part of my argument against putting things
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