This episode is brought to you by wondrim, the former great courses. You get a free, one month a trial run through my show. The sceptic societyis a five c three non profit, so your donations are tax free. Sadly, unfortunately, a this is coming on a time, this 200 an first episode here, this ama, upon the death of my a long time friend and co founder of the society and magazine, pat lindsey. Here's a picture of pat, and i'll be doing a full tribute to her on a special edition of the h podcast.