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E15: Richard Hanania on Vivek Ramaswamy, Affirmative Action, and the Winning Agenda for 2024

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

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Introduction

Richard Hynania: Trump really matters for our politics. If you lose his general, I think he's the nominee in 2028 and probably 2032 and probably indefinitely. Richard sat with me for a wide ranging extended conversation where we discussed conservatism, diversity, and the history of the culture wars.

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