Noi: How do feelings become just as important and just as integral to how we run companies as like panel, or an innovative idea, or any other sort of lic mem of import inside of a knowledge system? Ota: i think that's really interesting, the way you made that comparison. I do have a lot of hopein in whatcould yes. But ultimately, when you're in the facilitation roll, you see that million ways to run a meaning. And actually the deeper change is like making these things more human and helping people do that.

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