How to Be a Successful Recidivist

There's no one seemingly interested in having that conversation. But wouldn't it be like such a profound conversation that would lead to a lot of good solutions? We'll have that later. So we've been talking about recidivists, but not actually about you personally. How old are you anyway? 30 or 31? Geriatric. Let's just put it right on the table how remarkably unusual it is that you're a 31-year-old woman running a 60-person criminal justice tech company.