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038 - OOUX at HelloFresh with Jake Zukowski
The Object-Oriented UX Podcast
The Dead End of the UX Designer
"I feel like everyone thinks that there's a dead end in the design career and that eventually one day they have to grow up in BPMs," she says. "We need these roles to cooperate together because they have two different lenses to solve the same problem" She adds: "The more that we can design as a community, the better off our users are going to be"
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