The Importance of Race in America

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In America too, that has never been the only racial distinction, but it has been the most important. But to then try to apply that to something like the Third Reich is making the exact the mistake that you worry about in your book. And they say white supremacy in China, right, because by definition, if the Han said it's going to hit minorities, they must somehow by alchemy become white, right. I mean, it all seems like it's part of that same basic conceptual cognitive mistake.

Tomiwa Owolade is a writer and author of the forthcoming book This is Not America: Why Black Lives in Britain Matter.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tomiwa Owolade discuss how some popular forms of anti-racist thinking can obscure which groups are struggling most; how Labour MP Diane Abbott’s response to an article of Owolade’s in The Guardian led to the Labour MP’s formal censure by her party; and what Americans can learn from Britain on issues of race (and Britons from America).

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