Do You Have an Evil Presence in the Occult?

Ander says that when you ask for something, you have to pay it back. And with christ and with religion, and with abrahamic religions, a lot of this comes in retrospect. "You look back and you realize that everything fell into place er because of these n things" Ander also talks about how he became interested in the occult after being taught by an English teacher who didn't like steinbeck or locesson books.