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Steffa is a growth marketer, a writer and a self taught programmer. She's also the senior analyst at trens dot co, which is a business news letter that talks about different business insights. Through her work she as developed a deep understanding of corona viris. And most importantly, im bringing stuff on because i think her perspective represents something a little bit different from the main stream media. So without further ado, let's get the party started.

In this episode, I speak with Steph Smith (@stephsmithio), the Senior Analyst for the popular tech and business newsletter, the Hustle. In our wide-ranging conversation, Steph shares her thoughts about the COVID-19 pandemic and what we can expect over the coming months for life and business.

We also discuss the complex nature of the virus, why the entire world missed its window to react, how these “black swan events” lead to second and third-order effects, why many people may default to optimism, and what data we should pay attention to.

You can find the show notes, which include a bunch of Coronavirus resources, at https://calvinrosser.com/podcast/