"If you want to make connections with people who are somebody that you want to work with, you have got to be genuinely interested in what they're about," he says. "And i think that comes from, you know, you and i just from such polar opposit walks of like our careers." 'You've been a pastor and a writer. I've been a fucking business man, right? You know, it's kind of, is just, i'm interested in you. You're interested in me, right? Right? Not sexually?' He adds: 'Because angerous an works'