In order to truly innovate, we do need those contrarian thinkers. Socrates strikes me as a very disruptive character and somebody who was critical in all parts of society. The word disrupt the word contrarion, is now sort of banded around everywhere. And especiallyin sort of silican valley te culture, it's almost, sort of lost its meaning. I want to bring in socrates actually, because i was going to pull on the thread of disruption which you talk about as one of the mechanisms of innovation.

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