How to Plan for Student Loans

The student loan thing is so interesting to me because like so much of my follower base has to deal with this. It's not something that very, I almost have no clients that are really in the student loan things. So what's an example of a client that you might have that's got 40,000 of student loans with some kids? And then tell me like the incomes for each of the spouses and their family size,. Like just, you know, just curious.