Deric Cheng is Director of Research at the Windfall Trust. He joins the podcast to discuss how AI could reshape the social contract and global economy. The conversation examines labor displacement, superstar firms, and extreme wealth concentration, and asks how policy can keep workers empowered. We discuss resilient job types, new tax and welfare systems, global coordination, and a long-term vision where economic security is decoupled from work.
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(00:00) Episode Preview
(01:01) Introducing Derek and AGI
(04:09) Automation, power, and inequality
(08:55) Inequality, unrest, and time
(13:46) Bridging futurists and economists
(20:35) Future of work scenarios
(27:22) Jobs resisting AI automation
(36:57) Luxury, land, and inequality
(43:32) Designing and testing solutions
(51:23) Taxation in an AI economy
(59:10) Envisioning a post-AGI society
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