Stephanie: I really like the last one, because sometimes, yer, we have pught up managers. Sometimes ti just theve bin making lof assumptions, while actually development puts me better. So thanks again for sharing that wisdom. For people who want to learn more about the minstory telling or reaching out to you, where they can find you on night, if you go to the main story telling dot org,. You can find a contact page. Ther's my twitter handle, offstaff ind also an eme address there. Then of course, there's the book. And i'm also speaking frequently at conferences and meet ups now, still virtual, but hopefully in the

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