GitHub's leadership has worked to create a clear cultural imperative that we're not going to do that. If you don't have that cultural reinforcement, things can get weird really quick because your focus just on that dashboard rather than perhaps maybe what you should be focused on. Matthew: The way I would approach this is never try to convince it would be pointed questions like given this situation how would you avoid turning that dashboard into the target.
Matthew and Luke lead Extend’s Developer Experience team, a team that has approached their work in a way that is more forward-thinking than most. In this episode, they cover how they deliver impact at multiple levels of the organization, their journey with productivity metrics, and how they’ve made DevEx a C-level concern.
Discussion points:
- (1:40) How the DevEx team started and where it fits at Extend
- (5:08) Tradeoffs of DevEx reporting into Platform
- (6:40) The mandate and tasks they focus on
- (12:07) The impact of learning and development efforts
- (16:33) How to drive team-level improvements
- (18:44) Why developer experience is becoming more prevalent
- (26:17) How they made DevEx a C-level concern
- (30:27) Their journey with productivity metrics
- (33:10) Advice for presenting DevEx data to executives
- (34:52) The team’s experience using git metrics tools
- (48:30) Being rigorous in leveraging metrics
Mentions and links:
Connect with Matthew and Luke on LinkedIn
Other podcasts mentioned: Manuel Pais; Peloton’s DevEx survey