At some point in life, we all must come face to face with the reality that we don't know everything. It's impossible of course, but in the name of safety, we have a hidden desire to know what life has in store for us this next day, next week or next year. This "not knowing" often produces a feeling of fear that freezes us in place... but what if we could turn to wonder instead?

Life becomes much more enjoyable when we take this approach, but as you'll learn in this episode, we must be willing to heal from our past if we are ever to make wonder a normal part of our experience.

In our conversation with Jeff Lieberman, we explore this topic and much more in how we've been programmed by society and our upbringing... as well as how to heal and deprogram ourselves, so that we can enjoy life to the fullest.

One of our favorite analogies that Jeff shares in the very beginning of this episode is the difference between having a map VS a compass. Just like how our mind is a brilliant tool, so is a map. But much of our joy in life comes from unexpected experiences that we cannot see or plan for - which is why having a compass (our heart) is a much more reliable tool to help us navigate life in an expansive, life-giving way.

We hope you enjoy this conversation and get a ton out of it as we know we did! If you'd like to learn more about Jeff's Sleepawake Camp, go to http://sleepawake.camp

Sleepawake Camp is a month-long summer intensive for 18-27 year olds to learn all the things they could've been offered about how to live thriving, joyous, and connected lives. The curriculum weaves science, psychology, game-play, and ancient wisdom to support embodiment, creative expression, working with difficult emotions, deepening self-awareness and metacognition, and more, in a supportive community -- a bootcamp for the body, heart, and mind.

More about Jeff Lieberman:

Jeff received four degrees at MIT (Physics, Math, Mech Eng and Robotics). He hosted “Time Warp” on the Discovery Channel about the wonders of science, and made large-scale art for 15 years. By external measures, he was incredibly successful. But inside, something was missing. This disconnect led him to a deep depression in high school, and chronic pain for almost 20 years after that.

Jeff learned quantum mechanics before learning about his emotions. He marvels at the fact that we can measure the external universe to 10-decimal accuracy, but most of us don’t learn about our insides: our emotions, what leads to flourishing, how to take great care of ourselves. Years of personal exploration transformed him, leading to a determination to not have the road to joy be difficult for others to find.

He has spent the last 11 years focusing on personal and group development, facilitating students and adults through intensives, and speaking around the world on the topics of art, science, education, healing, and consciousness.

See more of his work at http://bea.st