In this episode of the Courageous Leaders Podcast, I speak with Rob Doubal and Laurence (Lolly) Thomson, Global CCOs at M&C Saatchi.

With 17 years of collaboration, they share lessons on leadership, creativity, and adaptability, from their McCann days to leading at M&C Saatchi.

We dive into embracing risk, building strong team dynamics, and unlocking the value of creative leadership. If you're a leader or creative looking to grow, this episode is full of valuable insights.

We Cover:
05:55 - How setbacks can lead to exciting opportunities

11:14 - The importance of adaptable leadership and adjusting styles for different jobs

13:14 - Fostering environments where ideas thrive and innovation leads the way

16:13 - How creativity separates successful from unsuccessful businesses

18:15 - How to put Creativity at the Heart of the Agency

21:02 - Balancing Vulnerability and Creativity

24:16 - The key questions to ask in an interview

27:01 - How their strengths help solve problems faster and work efficiently

33:33 - Why successful teams need diverse perspectives and shared goals

35:25 - The learning from working with multiple CEO's

36:32 - Understanding the value of different leadership styles.

39:49 - How effective leadership balances motivation, organisation, and pressure.

45:30 - Recognising that big change takes time, while managing the urge to dive in immediately

50:52 - Keep Learning and Keep breaking

55:48 - Explaining Risk: A simple yet powerful ‘puddle’ metaphor for Leadership

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