Atheists, Like, You Know, You're Always Poised Between Hope and Fear

Jaily: I don't really think like people are really atheists, like, i guess that's kind of like a bird brand, like evangelical christian idea. We're like the atheist profess ir who's always lookin angry at god or something because his wife left him for being too much of an atheist. But in the same way, there's something tyei think its hard for anybody to escape the sort of not knowing problem of the human condition. Jaily: In order to perceive something and then say, like, is that really there? That's the phenomenology of perception.