What comes after we abolish borders? Gracie Mae Bradley and Luke De Noronha
The Verso Podcast
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How to Speak to Different People at Once
"I think if we become kind of two media trained as though what we really need to do is win this little argument and get this little change from this little like becoming lobbyists then what are we doing?" she asks. "We also have to tell other kinds of stories have all sorts of creative utopian crazy manifesto like publications and things that we say to one another ways that we can are the after yeah exactly whenever but I mean that's the other important thing is to think that there are different moments to intervene different people you speak to"
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