The idea that yo're doing something different, it's a little scary. It'll be a little risky, but you'll attract people who find that appealing rather than frightening. I think we have to think about what aspects of tenure have made universities better places and which ones have been pernicious. The way tenure has currently construed, the hiring process has really a accelerated this. And look, i will say categorically, the problem for me isn't that that a symmetry. In almost every institution leans left. Ah, and so that's problematic. Why is it te stabilize? It w if higher education as, in some ways, a not just knowledge, but the ability to self reflect

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