The Instinct to Not Think About Injustice

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Peter Bergen: The extent to which we've normalized and tolerated just straight up discrimination against Asian Americans in particular is just disturbing. He says it's tempting not to look too closely at what it means for people who are less talented to live in a deep democratic society. "I can understand the case for affirmative action, but I feel I'm bivoting about it," he said.

Peter Arcidiacono is an economist at Duke University and an expert on affirmative action. Arcidiacono served as an expert witness for Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. (SFFA) in SFFA v. Harvard.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Peter Arcidiacono discuss the role that racial preferences have played in the admissions processes of elite American universities in recent decades; the workarounds that universities are likely to use in the wake of the recent Supreme Court decision; and why real progress for less privileged students will require fundamental changes that look beyond the admissions practices of a few elite universities.

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