How Delos and Guaturee Mobilize Redundancy

The really interesting stuff philosophically begins in the third and the fourth books those are the ones it gets very sort of almost didactic for Frank Herbert is just basically spouting his kind of personal philosophy. Dorothea Ocowski's work but she has that book on Delos Merleuponti and I forget who else was it Birxard but she draws Dune Messiah. We would love to have you back to talk more about how Delos and Guaturee mobilize especially Guaturee mobilizes redundancy which we focused on as a part of the state form. The Empire Strikes Back would be Dune Messiah because it really you constructs the whole rise of Paul Moideab etc