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The 2022 Holberg Debate on Ukraine, Russia, China and the West.

Holberg Prize Talks

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What's a Realistic Szenario for the War in Ukraine?

I don't know how this one is going to end. I think there are a fair number of people in Moscow even in senior positions who would be into the enclosing down this war tomorrow if they could. Would that include Crimea withdrawing from Crimea? Probably not. So then we will be back to where we were. But prior to February 24, where we did not have an agreement on Crimea, and it got to take quite some time to get some sort of solution to Crimea. It's also going to be dependent on us helping to secure and give a new future to Ukraine. If we don't get a stable Ukraine, we will not get a stable Europe.

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