You Know, I'm Not Going to Give Up, Right?

The road to getting there, and I'm sure you will agree, is full of like moments where like, I'm just going to give up. Is that something as a research leader that you work with with your junior researchers? And what would be some advice for people in the audience who might be feeling these kind of feelings because it's a long process,. et cetera. The things that, that didn't exactly call out before were the moments of, yeah, feeling like, what's the point? Why are we doing this?