"It's not obvious which was the right, right way to go," says John Avlon. "Can we say that trump was wrong about withdrawing from nato based on what we know to day? It's actually not obvious, is it?" 'I donno, i'm not saying it would have been a good idea to pull an i nato,' adds Avlon. "'If he had pulled ot of nato, and and puden didn't feel threatened' ... I me, everything would look different."

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