How to Have a Psychedelic Experience Without Drugs

"I wonder if we might start just kind of catch up from when we last talked" "In the last two years something really amazing has happened is that your mother you have a baby like it's toddler now and so one of the things I'm so interested in is what that's been like given that you are a psychologist who specializes in all these areas" "Motherhood to me feels like this and matressants in particular the embodied change that that demands that everything about the way that we orient to the world changes to feel so consuming in my my inner thought life right now" 'It was amazing it took me hours to really get over it and yeah I'm still thinking about it'