Think through what's true and then try to hold that together in a holistic manner. I think we ended up in this weird mindset where like everyone was like bro grow grow spend as much money as possible, he says. The valley kind of got obsessed with this idea and VCs kind of pushed it to some extent but you know created these huge companies that can't just be cashflow positive they're dealing with real things moving around an expensive business when you have warehouses. He doesn't think the logic makes sense as much as people think it does.

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