Europe is in the throws of an accelerating, urgent mobilisation around “digital sovereignty” – which does not mean protectionism and does not mean autarky: instead, an industrial project - led by industry – to strengthen our assets and capabilities, reduce dependencies and improve resilience. Not “just” for security, but for productivity and growth. A scintillating conversation on “Europe’s Quest for Digital Emancipation » (where are the choke points ? how did we get here ? how do we make it real ?) with two of the most influential »cage rattlers « around, fully intent on awakening European tech : Rafael Laguna and Dietmar Harhoff