Think through the upstream stuff, because if you don't solve some of the upstream causes of the problem, it's very likely they will be displaced somewhere else. Think about the downstream stuff of whatever you're going to do so that you aren't going to cause problems to something else that matters. Could you give an example of that upstream and downstream on the level of the individual in a product or something? Sure. That conceptually makes sense. Should we move into the three by three grid then? And how should we? Okay. It's important to say, so how do you think through externalities better to avoid them?

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