Is the US Government Really Using Graphite?

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The DEA is using a tool called Graphite. It's made by an Israeli firm called Paragon. The names of these companies and tools all sound like they could be villains in sci-fi movies or yeah, every firm sounds like a Bond movie. So you know, we're monitoring closely, but for right now, the US government still can use this. I want you to know this is nothing but shit. It's killing business."

“Zero-click spyware” is making it easier for governments to get their hands on individuals’ personal data. New York Times investigative reporter Mark Mazzetti says that when it comes to spyware, the United States is both an arsonist and a firefighter.

This episode was produced by Amanda Lewellyn, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Efim Shapiro, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram.

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