Martinean: It is a repressive, single party dictatorship. We simply have no idea how that's going to play out. You can tell a story which china end up as the perfect orwelian state without the boot. But we are not going to determine that. China isn't ours, it's theirs. How do we deal with them realistically? A free speech of people in our societies matters to us. I really want to be quite clear that that is defended and protected. One of the brumps that was discussed climate which i take very, very seriously. The question is whether one can deal with this in a sensible, productive way... No more than that.

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