United Leads, United?

The nation state is very traditional. It's based on ye strong ties. I am irish. You are irish. We are of a certain cultural background. We were born in a certain place. Those ties are incredibly strong. And by their very definition, they exclude everybody else. But what you have with these two men is an age old battle, the battle between horizontal power and vertical power. So we're going to cut it off the ukranians, ironically, with your man's help, ilon musk so, you know, he's got this starling thing, yes.