Governor DeSantis decided to use cultural issues to differentiate himself, but it hasn't worked out that well. How are cultural issues playing in the Republican primaries?

Cultural issues are always important, but they're generally defined by your local school board, your families and your communities. And so they're not the focus of a national debate. Ron DeSantis made a mistake and he paid a price for that. He dropped in the polls in the last debate. The word woke, I don't believe was ever used in a two hour debate. So it really demonstrates that he went too far on this and he pulled back from it. While it is an important issue out there to the voters, it's not something that you lead with or you define a national campaign on.

Why are there always so many governors in the presidential race? Well, you don't just get to vote and walk away.

You're actually responsible as a chief executive for implementing policy and making things happen. And you're held accountable if you don't. That's why governors make good presidents, but also why they have to perform well in their states. We've had to manage through a pandemic. You can look at the track record and that's important because all the candidates have similar positions. We're for pro-growth energy policy. We're for securing the southern border. We're for controlling spending and reducing the size of the administrative state. Well, the question is who has done that? And as a governor, I can point to the fact that I did move National Guard down to the southern border. I can say I've balanced the budget for eight years. I reduced state government employment by 14%. I know how to shrink the size of government and transform it. I lowered taxes and a hundred thousand jobs were created. So that to me is the difference. You can look at someone's record as governor and say did they do it or they didn't do it.