This is Jocko podcast number three forty one with Carrie Helton and me Jocko Willink. Also joining us tonight, Dave Burke. To Steve Prasenka who showed us how to soldier to Henry DeBour who showed ushow to die to Glover John's who showed usHow to lead. All the doughboys, the ground pounders, the grunts, the American infantryman, past, present, and especially future to them. And that of course is the opening dedication of the book of Outface by Colonel David Hackworth.