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Creating Art as a Couple with Jimmy Chin and Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi

Wild Ideas Worth Living

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The Importance of Clarity in Climbing

I don't ever doubt what level of excellence she wants to bring to the production. And I definitely trust her instincts on the narrative and how that's going to play out. We learned in Maru that actually you don't have to explain very much, but that also means that you lose some very precise concepts. So it's kind of not that important to the story. Like, if it reveals something about your character or pushes the action forward, great,. But the details of how to climb, we were like, it's really important that you understand the three hardest parts. There's only one move that we really had to express and explain.

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