There's a lot of people here, especially here in the United States Maybe in the West in general or yeah the whole world whatever they feel they need to exert some sense of control. So I think as the world is falling apart It's not that you turn away from the world, but you try to zoom in your focus Ultimately to that circle of things that are up to you and then do you respond with those that you've got these four Well, not you but I guess stoicism has these four virtues one of which are writing about now.
Jordan Harbinger is a podcaster, radio personality, entrepreneur and longtime friend of Ryan’s. So when he invited Ryan to come to The West in LA to join him for a live conversation for his podcast, The Jordan Harbinger Show, Ryan jumped on a plane right away. This is that conversation, in which they discuss how they find their flow states, the ins and outs of teaching Stoicism, cultivating a healthy relationship with work, and more. You can follow Jordan’s work on Twitter @JordanHarbinger and Instagram @jordanharbinger, and on his website www.jordanharbinger.com.
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