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284 - John Vervaeke and Jacob Howland - The Symposium

The Symbolic World

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The Asceticism of Socrates

Socrates seems to be trying to transform his arrows and he does it in different ways. If you experience loss Like if you experience loss of what you desire then it's like a trampoline or It's a new ground on which you can reach higher. To draw somebody into that transformation you have to seduce them You have to you have to get them to recognize the knowing and the not knowing and how they're interpenetrating each other. But I don't think Socrates is at times. No, I think I'm disagreeing with you. I think he draws him in and refuses them but  I think that's part of a general thing of trying to get him into

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