Liberalism

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I think theres are three interrogations of liberalism on the table, one in which we agree and tune wih will see to what extent we agree? So one is but free speech, free inquiry, and so a, i think, you know, i like to hear your case for wi. But i think we likely to agree on that when the second is about religion and how liberalism does or should treat religion. And i'v be intrested in having it out a thean. The third is the relationship betetween liberalism and, i gess, broadly speaking, capitalism or free markets,. And again, i'm much sure about the extent of disagreement we're going to

Elizabeth Bruenig is a staff writer at The Atlantic and a Catholic socialist who writes on topics as varied as capital punishment and mothering two children while in her twenties. Her work is uniquely marked by her ruby-red Texas upbringing, the elite professional world she now inhabits, and her deep sense of morality, which draws from both Christian theology and left-wing politics.

In a wide-ranging conversation, Elizabeth Bruenig and Yascha Mounk debate the importance of dialogue across moral perspectives, whether wokeness bears any resemblance to theology, and how religious conviction can give rise to an authentically liberal defense of free speech.

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