Sean Ramos: Whatever the negotiations bring, they have to include security for Ukraine. He says Putin is an absolute personalistic dictator; he can probably sell a loss at home as something more than a loss. What will the world have learned from this conflict when and if that day comes? Hasenfeld: I think we've already seen that the Biden administration has taken the lesson of revisionist great powers who want to conquer their neighborhoods.
The next Congress could be a whole lot less willing to keep spending billions on aid to Ukraine. It’s time to talk about how this war could end.
This episode was produced by Victoria Chamberlin, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard with help from Miles Bryan, engineered by Paul Robert Mounsey, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram.
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