The line between starks and snarks is a sort of blurring to everyone, except academics. I think people are just experimenting at this point with the different systems. We're trying to develop a v m that runs in a stark that's real, really efficient. And then let's see if we can take solidity or ule code and compile it to bite code That executes in that sort of computer running inside a stark. This is a little bit more like the z k sink approach to right? Like they work with they look under the hood. There's something else. The op codes are different, but there's a way to compile solidity into what they need to, what

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