At Stripe actually, so it's relevant for early startup founders and my sales organization. When we first got into enterprise sales back in 2017, 2018, we got feedback again and again and again that the pricing you're coming in is like quote unquote shock and awe tactics. The thing from a sales process that folks can do well is get to that statement, where the customer has said to you, assuming we can come to agreeable commercial terms, you are the product of choice.

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