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Square and Jack Darcy
jackconnection, that is we are reaching way back herehad inquired. And jack mo had also grown up in saint louis missouri. So this is, this is the late eighties. Now, jim worked for ibm for a couple o years, and then he got the start up bug, and he started his own company,. which was called mera, digital publishing. But they went at it for a couple of yearsdand then jim started to realize adobe was going to win the market.