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I like the visual of knowing how long a chapter is. I don't know, is that a byproduct of the start and end? Or is it just assuming that based on the start of every chapter? What do you know about that? I haven't actually tested it; I assume it's there every time. So start times to chapters are required end times are not required, which makes sense. We include both. And I would assume if I was writing that app, I would say, okay, if I have the metadata that shows me the start and the end time, I'm going to use that for my calculations. But if I don't, I’m going to