#323: Tim Ferriss Goes to Maximum Security Prison
The Tim Ferriss Show
The Prisoner's Journey
Jason Holland was sentenced to life without parole for a felony murder at 19. Ian Vittoro has been incarcerated for the past 10 years and is serving a sentence for two counts of armed robbery firearm deadly weapon. Jason: "I went through a really bad divorce in 2006 i think that was perhaps the significant event that kind of led me here"
In this podcast, I had the rare opportunity to interview three men in Level 4 maximum security at Kern Valley State Prison. There was no time to do homework on any of them, so I crossed my fingers and jumped in. It was incredibly nerve-wracking and, ultimately, incredibly rewarding and fun. Any expectations I might have had going in were exceeded.
I owe special thanks to Cat Hoke, all the men who participate in Defy (the program Cat started), and all the staff and officers at Kern, including Chief Deputy Warden Goss who made it possible for me to bring recording equipment. Thank you for the help, sir!
If you're interested in a similar prison visit after listening to this episode, Cat now has five more trips lined up. Simply email admin@cathoke.com for more details. If this episode moves you in any way, make sure to check out Defy and other groups doing this work and making an impact, like the Anti-Recidivism Coalition (ARC).
Enjoy!
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