The number of books people are buying has actually gone up for the first time in a long time. A lot of that is directly attributed to the fact that you have put these communities on line, yes. And so my thing is, like, i love interview podcast. Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy inviting me on to this. I'll talk to you every day if want. But by the time i've resisted raising money and offers to ind everything else, because i'm like, doet if i start doing this now? Like there's five thousand people that are better than me at it. You think being interesting to 11 million people for multiple hours is not horrid

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