Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California

I was getting expanded in my early 20s of what was possible I think living in LA helped with that too, being in just a much more diverse and creative city. And so seeing that, realizing what I was spending all my time doing, then my mom reminded me that I actually always wanted to go to art school but I didn't know how to put together a portfolio or any of that. So I started taking those classes in January of 2008, the year that the recession happened not knowing what was going to happen that yearbut knew that I needed to start exploring things outside of my job. "It's like, you spend all this time in your life getting really good at being a